Midleved+chat+07292011+Promoting+student+dialog

Promoting dialog in the classroom FeldmannNicole: awesome....only my second chat and I've learned so much! #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 9:03:16 pm ReplyRetweetFavoriteEmail TweetView OriginalEmail Tweet MissCheska: Thanks for a lovely "dialogue" tonight! ;) Excited abt some of these ideas! #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 9:02:22 pm

MissCheska: Thanks for a lovely "dialogue" tonight! ;) Excited abt some of these ideas! #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 9:02:22 pm

lisamonthie: @francesblo it's great to also assess what I need to teach this year in writing #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:56:02 pm

francesblo: Terrific resource- and idea-sharing tonight! #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:55:45 pm

francesblo: @lisamonthie Love idea of student-generated writingrules - stealing ur idea! #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:54:58 pm

francesblo: @lisamonthie Love idea of student-generated writingrules - stealing ur idea! #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:54:58 pm

lisamonthie: @francesblo there is a great Facebook template in google docs to do that- just search in gdocs for it #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:54:00 pm

lisamonthie: @francesblo there is a great Facebook template in google docs to do that- just search in gdocs for it #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:54:00 pm

dlrichert: @francesblo Thanks! #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:53:14 pm

dlrichert: @francesblo Thanks! #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:53:14 pm

MissCheska: @francesblo That's a gr8 idea-- am using this for first-day plan! ;) FB profiles w/ sticky notes comments #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:53:09 pm

lisamonthie: #midleved we hung up these rules- if any essay failed one of the rules it was automatically passed back 4 revision Fri Jul 29 - 8:52:54 pm

francesblo: @dlrichert Check out http://www.freetech4teachers.com/2011/07/three-ways-to-create-fake-facebook.html #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:52:16 pm

lisamonthie: #midleved another first day activity- we developed a writing contract: as a class we listed things we knew about writing Fri Jul 29 - 8:52:10 pm

francesblo: If u don't have computers, just create a sketchy FB page in Word for Ss to start with, use sticky notes 4 comments/posts #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:50:38 pm

francesblo: If u don't have computers, just create a sketchy FB page in Word for Ss to start with, use sticky notes 4 comments/posts #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:50:38 pm

dlrichert: @francesblo I've used myfakewall for this before. Any other tools you would suggest? #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:48:57 pm

dlrichert: @francesblo I've used myfakewall for this before. Any other tools you would suggest? #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:48:57 pm

FeldmannNicole: @ lisamonthie @dlrichert what a great first day activity! Everyone gets to learn about each other #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:48:41 pm

FeldmannNicole: @ lisamonthie @dlrichert what a great first day activity! Everyone gets to learn about each other #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:48:41 pm

francesblo: I've used paper Facebook profiles + walls - for literature/character study - use tech metaphor #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:47:24 pm

dlrichert: @lisamonthie I think you just helped me cement my first day of school plan! :) #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:46:59 pm

MSSGregory: @lisamonthie good idea. Never heard of paper blogging #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:46:06 pm

MSSGregory: @lisamonthie good idea. Never heard of paper blogging #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:46:06 pm

lisamonthie: @dlrichert both! #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:46:05 pm

francesblo: @lisamonthie Writing practice - aren't you sneaky! #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:45:11 pm

francesblo: @lisamonthie Writing practice - aren't you sneaky! #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:45:11 pm

LYRichardson: RT @dlrichert: Tech is a vehicle for the content and platform for understanding. #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:45:07 pm

dlrichert: @lisamonthie I love this idea. Was the focus commenting or crafting the post? #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:44:54 pm

lisamonthie: @francesblo @mthman students had to silently respond to my question or other students' posts #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:43:57 pm

lisamonthie: @francesblo @mthman students had to silently respond to my question or other students' posts #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:43:57 pm

lisamonthie: @francesblo @mthman I did paper blogging by hanging large pieces ofchart paper around the room #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:43:23 pm

lisamonthie: @francesblo @mthman I did paper blogging by hanging large pieces ofchart paper around the room #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:43:23 pm

dlrichert: Tech is a vehicle for the content and platform for understanding. #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:42:26 pm

francesblo: @LYRichardson Tech should be tool. Even when I teach tech class, use as tool to get something meaningful accomplished #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:42:17 pm

LYRichardson: Are tech tools crowding/supplanting the content? Is technology BECOMING the content? #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:40:35 pm

dlrichert: Tech just 1 element of the class. Small group discussions, movement conversations, and laughter in class also very important. #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:40:21 pm

LYRichardson: @MsAlexJones @MSSGregory Communicate f2f- ss need experience w verbalizing their thoughts/impromptu-VALUABLE #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:38:08 pm

MSSGregory: RT @francesblo: @LYRichardson Give lots of opportunities to work in pairs, not always same partners #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:35:31 pm

francesblo: @LYRichardson Give lots of opportunities to work in pairs, not always same partners #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:34:41 pm

francesblo: @LYRichardson Give lots of opportunities to work in pairs, not always same partners #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:34:41 pm

MsAlexJones: I totally agree @MSSGregory. Ss need 2 learn to communicate in groups, bc this will be necessary in high school/college and jobs #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:33:15 pm

MsAlexJones: I totally agree @MSSGregory. Ss need 2 learn to communicate in groups, bc this will be necessary in high school/college and jobs #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:33:15 pm

LYRichardson: @dlrichert How do we move students from tech to the interconnection of humans? #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:33:15 pm

francesblo: @LYRichardson Clearly we're defining as both verbal AND print/online #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:31:54 pm

MissCheska: Has any1 used designated show& tell days, or is that too "young" for a mid-lev class? #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:31:34 pm

MissCheska: Has any1 used designated show& tell days, or is that too "young" for a mid-lev class? #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:31:34 pm

LYRichardson: How are we defining discussion/communication for this chat: verbal or print or both? #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:30:59 pm

francesblo: Ss also learn a lot about each other when wk in small grps that teacher selects #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:30:18 pm

MSSGregory: #midleved there needs to be balance between tech communication and face to face interactions. Fri Jul 29 - 8:30:15 pm

dlrichert: @francesblo Exactly! They realize they have much more in common then they ever believed. #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:29:50 pm

dlrichert: @francesblo Exactly! They realize they have much more in common then they ever believed. #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:29:50 pm

dlrichert: students are amazed at their discoveries about classmates by through blogs, sharing projects, and having online discussions. #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:28:26 pm

dlrichert: students are amazed at their discoveries about classmates by through blogs, sharing projects, and having online discussions. #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:28:26 pm

francesblo: @dlrichert Also gr8 reinforcement for kids to finally have their ideas acknowledged by peers. "Didn't know u were so smart" #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:27:41 pm

mthman: @misscheska I'll look for the link and send it out. #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:27:14 pm

mthman: @misscheska I'll look for the link and send it out. #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:27:14 pm

francesblo: @dlrichert Absolutely! #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:27:04 pm

dlrichert: Tech helps many of my students socially because It gives others a chance to hear and see their ideas in a non-threatening medium. #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:26:07 pm

LYRichardson: @MSSGregory From what I've read they are losing social skills. It will probably take a generation to really know for certain. #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:25:54 pm

MissCheska: @MSSGregory That's a tough Q. I think both. #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:25:02 pm

MissCheska: @MSSGregory That's a tough Q. I think both. #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:25:02 pm

LYRichardson: "Dialogue is not a tile in the mosaic of school experienced by most students." www.usca.edu/essays/vol182006/clark.pdf #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:24:32 pm

MsAlexJones: 2 create a longer dialogue/ think critically, have students post open-ended questions and have a minimum response of a few sents #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:24:11 pm

MsAlexJones: 2 create a longer dialogue/ think critically, have students post open-ended questions and have a minimum response of a few sents #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:24:11 pm

francesblo: Ss need online social skills, too. Discussion about courtesy online bleeds into F2F #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:23:44 pm

MSSGregory: #midleved anyone think kids are losing social skills with all this technology? Or increasing it? Fri Jul 29 - 8:22:37 pm

francesblo: Good to get kids to create rubrics sometimes, too, then they own it #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:21:41 pm

mthman: @francesblo I need to use rubrics more often. Thanks for the reminder. #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:20:25 pm

mthman: @francesblo I need to use rubrics more often. Thanks for the reminder. #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:20:25 pm

dlrichert: There is an app for the smart phone, called stick pick, that is the virtual Popsicle stick. It's great for class! #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:20:20 pm

MissCheska: @mthman I was just trying to look for that link on paper blogging! Can't find it right now to share though ;( #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:19:25 pm

MissCheska: @mthman I was just trying to look for that link on paper blogging! Can't find it right now to share though ;( #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:19:25 pm

MSSGregory: #midleved I use tech to encourage more dialogue w/ shy kids but face 2 face dialogue is still very important. I model ways to communicate Fri Jul 29 - 8:19:14 pm

mthman: @natbanting Not really...I am constantly searching the net...monitoring my pln...and adapting problems from textbooks. #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:19:06 pm

MissCheska: @FeldmannNicole @langwitches also has a great post sharing her blogging unit http://bit.ly/oM8Fw7 #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:18:37 pm

FeldmannNicole: Thanks for all of the great links! #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:18:33 pm

LYRichardson: Is the seating arrangement/plan conducive to discussion/conversation? #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:18:26 pm

francesblo: @mthman Paper blogging gr8 idea! Kids can all see "big picture" #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:17:50 pm

francesblo: @mthman Paper blogging gr8 idea! Kids can all see "big picture" #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:17:50 pm

mthman: I tried paper-blogging with students last year...to teach commenting. Then transitioned to kidblog posts. #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:16:52 pm

mthman: I tried paper-blogging with students last year...to teach commenting. Then transitioned to kidblog posts. #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:16:52 pm

MissCheska: @MSSGregory Great idea! #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:16:29 pm

MissCheska: @MSSGregory Great idea! #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:16:29 pm

francesblo: I use rubrics for class and online discussions, to grade. Sometimes mostly participation, sometimes quality #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:16:03 pm

francesblo: I use rubrics for class and online discussions, to grade. Sometimes mostly participation, sometimes quality #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:16:03 pm

MissCheska: @FeldmannNicole @4thGrdTeach has a nice post on introducing students to KidBlog http://bit.ly/o2Ngf8 #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:16:01 pm

MsAlexJones: @ FeldmannNicole You should let them know about cybersafety, http://ow.ly/5QUbq (Middle School Cyber Bullying Quiz) #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:15:54 pm

MsAlexJones: @ FeldmannNicole You should let them know about cybersafety, http://ow.ly/5QUbq (Middle School Cyber Bullying Quiz) #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:15:54 pm

francesblo: Good resource about starting blogging http://legacy.teachersfirst.com/content/blog/blogbasics.cfm #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:15:16 pm

mthman: Open-ended problems work well just as team challenges to get students talking. #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:15:03 pm

MSSGregory: @MissCheska get a big jar with rubber bands wrapping each class #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:14:12 pm

MissCheska: @MsAlexJones I love the popsicle strategy, but as a traveling teacher bringing multiple sets of cups is hard in a cart #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:12:58 pm

MsAlexJones: thanks @lisamonthie, I will have to check that out #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:11:46 pm

MsAlexJones: thanks @lisamonthie, I will have to check that out #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:11:46 pm

FeldmannNicole: @MsAlexJones Do you have any recommendations for beginning blogs with students? Like requirements, rules, etc #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:11:39 pm

MissCheska: @FeldmannNicole I wonder if Schoology might have too many bells & whistles and take away from the learning #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:11:35 pm

MissCheska: @FeldmannNicole Yes I just looked into Schoology today too! I'm starting w/ stdts who havent had much exposure to such tools tho #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:11:04 pm

FeldmannNicole: @lisamonthie Edmodo works well for my Masters class, I just can't decide between that and Schoology #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:10:37 pm

FeldmannNicole: @lisamonthie Edmodo works well for my Masters class, I just can't decide between that and Schoology #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:10:37 pm

MsAlexJones: you could have students create blogs and comment on each others' posts to facilitate discussion #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:10:29 pm

lisamonthie: @MsAlexJones have you tried classtools.net random name picker? Works great #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:10:18 pm

mthman: I use a variety of Kagan structures to keep students on topic....dialogue, writing, presenting #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:10:18 pm

FeldmannNicole: @MissCheska I just found out about schoology--looks a lot like facebook, and a mix of that and edmodo #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:08:51 pm

MsAlexJones: you could also put each student's name on a popsicle stick, put them all in a cup and draw them at random #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:08:29 pm

MsAlexJones: you could also put each student's name on a popsicle stick, put them all in a cup and draw them at random #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:08:29 pm

lisamonthie: @FeldmannNicole edmodo works really well with literature circles #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:08:08 pm

MissCheska: @FeldmannNicole Looking into Edmodo for this school year but still not sold #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:07:53 pm

MissCheska: @FeldmannNicole Looking into Edmodo for this school year but still not sold #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:07:53 pm

FeldmannNicole: Anyone use schoology, edmodo, or Collaborize Classroom? #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:07:17 pm

lisamonthie: @FeldmannNicole I give a grade based on quantity and quality of blog posts #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:07:06 pm

MsAlexJones: you could pair students up in 2s where there's less pressure. after, have them summarize to the class what their partner said #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:06:16 pm

FeldmannNicole: do you "assess" dialogue for the gradebook? #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:05:57 pm

francesblo: the trick is having the dialog about your topic ;-P #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:05:19 pm

francesblo: the trick is having the dialog about your topic ;-P #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:05:19 pm

lisamonthie: #midleved I employ clock buddies to keep discussion varied http://t.co/i7OZxzR Fri Jul 29 - 8:04:50 pm

lisamonthie: #midleved I employ clock buddies to keep discussion varied http://t.co/i7OZxzR Fri Jul 29 - 8:04:50 pm

mthman: My seating...groups of 4, 6, or 8 (rotated)...encourages constant dialogue. #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:04:14 pm

francesblo: I use Moodle discussions to extend class discussions, good for shy kids, deliberate thinkers #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:03:51 pm

MissCheska: Interesting question or picture prompt w/o right answer paired w/ think-pair-share is a good start #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:03:18 pm

FeldmannNicole: @lisamonthie Today's Meet is wonderful. I also think using a web based discussion is a good way to build community. #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:03:02 pm

francesblo: Kids do well in small groups - easier 4 them to talk there, esp if shy #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:02:18 pm

lisamonthie: #midleved youcould also use edmodo, walleisher, or any blog to start discussion Fri Jul 29 - 8:02:07 pm

FeldmannNicole: Any really fun first day activities for 8th graders? #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:01:16 pm

FeldmannNicole: Any really fun first day activities for 8th graders? #midleved Fri Jul 29 - 8:01:16 pm

lisamonthie: #midleved you could use back channel such as tiny chat or today's meet to start student dialogue Fri Jul 29 - 8:00:58 pm

lisamonthie: #midleved you could use back channel such as tiny chat or today's meet to start student dialogue Fri Jul 29 - 8:00:58 pm

MissCheska: Hello every1! First time joining #midleved chat. First year 5th/6th science teacher fr. NY Fri Jul 29 - 8:00:23 pm

cnakazaki: RT @AnIowaTeacher: http://t.co/eIaYLdq Guide to Passion-Based Learning....I love it!!! #ntchat #teachchat #midleved #edchat Fri Jul 29 - 7:59:26 pm

mthman: Ready for #midleved chat. How do you get students to dialogue? How do you set the expectation from day one? Fri Jul 29 - 7:59:19 pm

vtdeacon: RT @mthman: Join the middle level crowd for #midleved chat in 15 min...topic: Promoting dialogue in the classroom. #edchat